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~~YTP~~ Tennis, also known as Youtube Poop Tennis, ~~Video~~ Tennis, Remix Tennis or simply Tennis, is a artistic medium derivative of [[Photoshop Tennis]] and [[Youtube Poop]] involving the back-and-forth editing of video projects, often absurdist ~~in nature.~~

Video Tennis, also known interchangeably as Youtube Poop Tennis, YTP Tennis, Remix Tennis or simply Tennis, is a artistic medium derivative of [[Photoshop Tennis]] and [[Youtube Poop]] involving the back-and-forth editing of video projects, often absurdist, experimental, or abstractly expressive in nature.

~~While starting mainly as a derivative of YouTube Poop~~, ~~and in the early years much more embraced by the full Youtube Poop community~~, it has increasingly become its own thing as time went on and the community of mainline Youtube Poop and the community of tennis have grown largely seperate. Much of modern tennis is a completely different beast in ~~comparison to [[Youtube Poop]], often veering into much more experimental, atmospheric, avant-guarde and generally much more overstimulating territory~~.

There are many different types of tennis that have evolved over the years, but the tried and true "vanilla" 6 round 1v1 has held steady just as much.

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[https://yellowtealpurple.net/forums/threads/the-revised-recreational-guide-to-video-tennis.1963/ The Revised Recreational Guide to Video Tennis]

=Relationship to Youtube Poop As An idiom=

While starting mainly as a derivative of YouTube Poop, and in the early years much more embraced by the full Youtube Poop community, it increasingly came into its own much in the same way as the sister offshoot of [[YTPMV]] as time went on and the community of mainline Youtube Poop and the community of tennis have grown largely separate. A definite "jumping off point" in terms of its separation has occasionally been noted to have happened somewhere in late 2010 or early 2011, a period in which more classic, simpler styles of engaging with tennis were pushed into the background in favor of work that was growing increasingly avant-guarde and exploratory -- {{MycroProcessor}}'s "5"(2011) is identified as a major and defining work to come from this period. Much of modern tennis operates on a completely different creative philosophy in comparison to [[Youtube Poop]], and veers into the extremes of all areas, from maximalism to minimalism, and the contexts of the various ways edited material is interrelated -- experimental, atmospheric, avant-guarde and generally much more overstimulating/abstract territory. "Video tennis" as a term was first used by {{CorruptionSound}} to denote his matches as early as 2009.

Unlike [[YTPMV]], much of the main [[Youtube Poop]] community does not regard YTP/Video tennis with much, if any serious regard or respect regarding its contributions to the overall spectrum of work created within this collective idiom over its history. Tennis is often ignored or devalued in comparison -- seen as an inaccessible, disposable obscurity owing to its tendency to explore styles and methods of video craft that are far outside of the comedy that tends to define Youtube Poop, or the music/organized sound structures that define YTPMV. Common criticisms often point the to the lack of conventional humor in tennis, the extremities and loudness of its sound design, as well as the abstract visual/colorful material that often obscures the baseline sources that were used to eventually arrive at that result, leaving many viewers little in the way to relate to in the same way that they would normal Youtube Poops. Some have viewed common tennis styles and techniques as a "lazy" way to make videos under the pretext of viewing the subversion of media as working in tandem with an understanding and a utilization of the media's exploitable material; Tennis often ignores this in favor of different, more sub-textural angles of editing approach, in which combinations and peculiarities of a source's sound, or the energy of a specific visual moment, can often play a part. Conversely, when exploitation of material for comedic purposes is the common point of focus for a player in a tennis context, this usually becomes focused on above the match at hand, and many response opportunities to a previous round have often gotten missed or large swaths of the previous round are ignored outright as a result.

View counts for videos created in a tennis context are almost always universally low, with many taking years to eventually accumulate view counts that surpass 1,000. Tennis rounds often accumulated counts of a few thousand or more in its early years, usually depending on the following and the status of the player/creator within the community itself. The most popular tennis matches have almost always happened between popular YTPers themselves who have the following to allow their work, and sometimes the work of their opponent if this opponent is more obscure, to be seen with uncommonly high attention.

Tennis has also become known in recent years for having a very large, much-younger base of creators usually operating on the fringes of the community (generally intersecting from "logo-editing" and "Object Show" focused spaces), actively making large volumes of work that tend to capture and magnify the base impressions of tennis in the form of loud, amateurishly made works using a small and repetitive pool of the same shared sources that offer little to no variation of execution. The ways in which this defines the overall impression of tennis as a medium altogether tends to vary depending, but has usually served to emphasize a perceived lack of collective creativity.

Certain rounds from certain matches have been embraced as individual works, though this is seen to come at a detriment to the perception of tennis itself as something to only understand individual videos through, rather than the progression of the matches that eventually arrive at said "rounds" within the match. In many matches, the serve is usually the most popular video as it is the easiest to engage with as a work in its own right. Occasionally a round late in the match gains the most attention, usually for its maximalist, overstimulating and overly abstract qualities producing reactions of confusion or dismissal, even from those already cultured within YTP itself. Another common critique of accessibility has often been the need for a viewer to sit through multiple videos or "rounds" of a match, and if a playlist for the match is not provided, needing to have knowledge of the existence of the match itself, where to find all the rounds and what their titles are. Since the [[YouWouldBeWelcome]] tennis archive account launched in 2019, a library of tennis matches compiled into single videos have been slowly assembled to allowed for the process of watching matches as single, concentrated videos, and properly understanding the ways in which tennis is played to be better understood by the general public.

=History (work in progress)=

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|[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eGc0bUdWsM izlude vs. sexkitten094]

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=Typical Game Format + Etiquette=

<youtube>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-Lf7zolg-U</youtube>

The rules of ~~YTP~~ Tennis are often customized to suit each pooper's needs. However, one of the original, and well known, formats is as follows:

The rules of Video Tennis are often customized to suit each pooper's needs. However, one of the original, and well known, formats is as follows:

* One player (P1) asks another, or in some cases the community as a whole, whether or not they would like to participate in a game. Here the number of videos to be made (or rounds, typically 4 or 6) is defined, as well as the length of each, and any other additional conditions. If an open challenge is made, a video is sometimes supplied. This is "Round 1", the serve of the tennis match.

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Often, 6 rounds in total is the conventional amount of rounds made that make a normal match considered "complete". However, in certain circumstances, especially if the players enjoy working off of each other, the number of rounds can often get extended to 8 or more. [[The 100 Round Tennis|{{TheChutley}} and vvaluigi began a match together]] with the intent of playing 100 rounds in total beginning in 2008, and have gotten as far as Round 75 in the present day, with a five year window of inactivity between 2011 and 2016. TheChutley is also known for often playing matches with various opponents that get extended to 8 rounds, having done so in her matches with {{GameBop}}, [[TheChutley vs. quax94|quax94]], [[TheChutley vs. ChrisGendo|ChrisGendo]], [[AbsoluteBillion vs. TheChutley|AbsoluteBillion]], JakeSteel, Rarenut59 and SesakaGenX, to name some. Her first match with Imaperson additionally extended all the way to 10 rounds, at a time when the only known instance of this otherwise was [[Wikiwow vs. UncleChuckTH]](2007), the first 1v1 match to go this far.

In some cases, especially in tennis's early years, matches could be declared "complete" at an odd number, as well as one under the conventional amount of 6. This usually came about as a mutual agreement between the players involved that the match had reached a natural end, if not exactly a conventional one. Matches such as Crash2991 vs. strong414bad(2008) and [[AshcrementVII vs. UncleChuckTH]](2012) were called complete at 5 rounds, and in another, much rarer instance, RabbitSnore vs. {{NS2}} (2008-2009) was given "honorary completion" after only 3 rounds. Other matches like [[RabbitSnore vs. conradslater]] (2007) and {{Kurkop}} vs. ~~LeSuperKoffee~~ (2010) were declared complete at the unusual amount of 9 rounds. These circumstances usually only happen when the last even round of a match is either unable or unwilling to be made by the volleying side, but there is not a desire to consider the match "failed" for sentimental reasons, usually due to the players being close as friends or the quality of the match as it stands being considered too great for failure.

[[File:LOL.png|thumb|right|A scene from [[Kurkop vs. superkoffee]] (2010).]]

In some cases, especially in tennis's early years, matches could be declared "complete" at an odd number, as well as one under the conventional amount of 6. This usually came about as a mutual agreement between the players involved that the match had reached a natural end, if not exactly a conventional one. Matches such as Crash2991 vs. strong414bad(2008) and [[AshcrementVII vs. UncleChuckTH]](2012) were called complete at 5 rounds, and in another, much rarer instance, RabbitSnore vs. {{NS2}} (2008-2009) was given "honorary completion" after only 3 rounds. Other matches like [[RabbitSnore vs. conradslater]] (2007) and [[Kurkop vs. superkoffee]] (2010) were declared complete at the unusual amount of 9 rounds. These circumstances usually only happen when the last even round of a match is either unable or unwilling to be made by the volleying side, but there is not a desire to consider the match "failed" for sentimental reasons, usually due to the players being close as friends or the quality of the match as it stands being considered too great for failure.

Additionally, matches can sometimes stall at an odd number with an even finishing round never being made and the match being considered neither completed nor failed due to a loss of communication. These include matches such as [[BMATF vs. Markie]](2007, the second ever tennis match), {{NS2}} vs. Markie(2012), {{dani_phantump}} vs. robochao1(2015-2016) and SushieBoy vs. guysafari(2010), all matches that never received a Round 6.

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-<B>YTP Tennis</B>, also known as <b>Youtube Poop Tennis</b>, <b>Video Tennis</b>, <b>Remix Tennis</b> or simply <b>Tennis</b>, is a artistic medium derivative of [[Photoshop Tennis]] and [[Youtube Poop]] involving the back-and-forth editing of video projects, often absurdist in nature.
+<B>Video Tennis</B>, also known interchangeably as <b>Youtube Poop Tennis</b>, <b>YTP Tennis</b>, <b>Remix Tennis</b> or simply <b>Tennis</b>, is a artistic medium derivative of [[Photoshop Tennis]] and [[Youtube Poop]] involving the back-and-forth editing of video projects, often absurdist, experimental, or abstractly expressive in nature.
-While starting mainly as a derivative of YouTube Poop, and in the early years much more embraced by the full Youtube Poop community, it has increasingly become its own thing as time went on and the community of mainline Youtube Poop and the community of tennis have grown largely seperate. Much of modern tennis is a completely different beast in comparison to [[Youtube Poop]], often veering into much more experimental, atmospheric, avant-guarde and generally much more overstimulating territory.
 There are many different types of tennis that have evolved over the years, but the tried and true "vanilla" 6 round 1v1 has held steady just as much.
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 [https://yellowtealpurple.net/forums/threads/the-revised-recreational-guide-to-video-tennis.1963/ The Revised Recreational Guide to Video Tennis]
+=Relationship to Youtube Poop As An idiom=
+While starting mainly as a derivative of YouTube Poop, and in the early years much more embraced by the full Youtube Poop community, it increasingly came into its own much in the same way as the sister offshoot of [[YTPMV]] as time went on and the community of mainline Youtube Poop and the community of tennis have grown largely separate. A definite "jumping off point" in terms of its separation has occasionally been noted to have happened somewhere in late 2010 or early 2011, a period in which more classic, simpler styles of engaging with tennis were pushed into the background in favor of work that was growing increasingly avant-guarde and exploratory -- {{MycroProcessor}}'s "5"(2011) is identified as a major and defining work to come from this period.  Much of modern tennis operates on a completely different creative philosophy in comparison to [[Youtube Poop]], and veers into the extremes of all areas, from maximalism to minimalism, and the contexts of the various ways edited material is interrelated -- experimental, atmospheric, avant-guarde and generally much more overstimulating/abstract territory. "Video tennis" as a term was first used by {{CorruptionSound}} to denote his matches as early as 2009.
+Unlike [[YTPMV]], much of the main [[Youtube Poop]] community does not regard YTP/Video tennis with much, if any serious regard or respect regarding its contributions to the overall spectrum of work created within this collective idiom over its history. Tennis is often ignored or devalued in comparison -- seen as an inaccessible, disposable obscurity owing to its tendency to explore styles and methods of video craft that are far outside of the comedy that tends to define Youtube Poop, or the music/organized sound structures that define YTPMV. Common criticisms often point the to the lack of conventional humor in tennis, the extremities and loudness of its sound design, as well as the abstract visual/colorful material that often obscures the baseline sources that were used to eventually arrive at that result, leaving many viewers little in the way to relate to in the same way that they would normal Youtube Poops. Some have viewed common tennis styles and techniques as a "lazy" way to make videos under the pretext of viewing the subversion of media as working in tandem with an understanding and a utilization of the media's exploitable material; Tennis often ignores this in favor of different, more sub-textural angles of editing approach, in which combinations and peculiarities of a source's sound, or the energy of a specific visual moment, can often play a part. Conversely, when exploitation of material for comedic purposes is the common point of focus for a player in a tennis context, this usually becomes focused on above the match at hand, and many response opportunities to a previous round have often gotten missed or large swaths of the previous round are ignored outright as a result.
+View counts for videos created in a tennis context are almost always universally low, with many taking years to eventually accumulate view counts that surpass 1,000. Tennis rounds often accumulated counts of a few thousand or more in its early years, usually depending on the following and the status of the player/creator within the community itself. The most popular tennis matches have almost always happened between popular YTPers themselves who have the following to allow their work, and sometimes the work of their opponent if this opponent is more obscure, to be seen with uncommonly high attention.
+Tennis has also become known in recent years for having a very large, much-younger base of creators usually operating on the fringes of the community (generally intersecting from "logo-editing" and "Object Show" focused spaces), actively making large volumes of work that tend to capture and magnify the base impressions of tennis in the form of loud, amateurishly made works using a small and repetitive pool of the same shared sources that offer little to no variation of execution. The ways in which this defines the overall impression of tennis as a medium altogether tends to vary depending, but has usually served to emphasize a perceived lack of collective creativity.
+Certain rounds from certain matches have been embraced as individual works, though this is seen to come at a detriment to the perception of tennis itself as something to only understand individual videos through, rather than the progression of the matches that eventually arrive at said "rounds" within the match. In many matches, the serve is usually the most popular video as it is the easiest to engage with as a work in its own right. Occasionally a round late in the match gains the most attention, usually for its maximalist, overstimulating and overly abstract qualities producing reactions of confusion or dismissal, even from those already cultured within YTP itself. Another common critique of accessibility has often been the need for a viewer to sit through multiple videos or "rounds" of a match, and if a playlist for the match is not provided, needing to have knowledge of the existence of the match itself, where to find all the rounds and what their titles are. Since the [[YouWouldBeWelcome]] tennis archive account launched in 2019, a library of tennis matches compiled into single videos have been slowly assembled to allowed for the process of watching matches as single, concentrated videos, and properly understanding the ways in which tennis is played to be better understood by the general public.
 =History (work in progress)=
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 |41
-|sexkitten094 vs. izlude
+|[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eGc0bUdWsM izlude vs. sexkitten094]
 | 10-27-2007 (11:56AM)
 | 10-29-2007
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 =Typical Game Format + Etiquette=
 <youtube>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-Lf7zolg-U</youtube><br>
-The rules of YTP Tennis are often customized to suit each pooper's needs. However, one of the original, and well known, formats is as follows:
+The rules of Video Tennis are often customized to suit each pooper's needs. However, one of the original, and well known, formats is as follows:
 * One player (P1) asks another, or in some cases the community as a whole, whether or not they would like to participate in a game. Here the number of videos to be made (or rounds, typically 4 or 6) is defined, as well as the length of each, and any other additional conditions. If an open challenge is made, a video is sometimes supplied. This is "Round 1", the serve of the tennis match.
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 Often, 6 rounds in total is the conventional amount of rounds made that make a normal match considered "complete". However, in certain circumstances, especially if the players enjoy working off of each other, the number of rounds can often get extended to 8 or more. [[The 100 Round Tennis|{{TheChutley}} and vvaluigi began a match together]] with the intent of playing 100 rounds in total beginning in 2008, and have gotten as far as Round 75 in the present day, with a five year window of inactivity between 2011 and 2016. TheChutley is also known for often playing matches with various opponents that get extended to 8 rounds, having done so in her matches with {{GameBop}}, [[TheChutley vs. quax94|quax94]], [[TheChutley vs. ChrisGendo|ChrisGendo]], [[AbsoluteBillion vs. TheChutley|AbsoluteBillion]], JakeSteel, Rarenut59 and SesakaGenX, to name some. Her first match with Imaperson additionally extended all the way to 10 rounds, at a time when the only known instance of this otherwise was [[Wikiwow vs. UncleChuckTH]](2007), the first 1v1 match to go this far.
-In some cases, especially in tennis's early years, matches could be declared "complete" at an odd number, as well as one under the conventional amount of 6. This usually came about as a mutual agreement between the players involved that the match had reached a natural end, if not exactly a conventional one. Matches such as Crash2991 vs. strong414bad(2008) and [[AshcrementVII vs. UncleChuckTH]](2012) were called complete at 5 rounds, and in another, much rarer instance, RabbitSnore vs. {{NS2}} (2008-2009) was given "honorary completion" after only 3 rounds. Other matches like [[RabbitSnore vs. conradslater]] (2007) and {{Kurkop}} vs. LeSuperKoffee (2010) were declared complete at the unusual amount of 9 rounds. These circumstances usually only happen when the last even round of a match is either unable or unwilling to be made by the volleying side, but there is not a desire to consider the match "failed" for sentimental reasons, usually due to the players being close as friends or the quality of the match as it stands being considered too great for failure.
+[[File:LOL.png|thumb|right|A scene from [[Kurkop vs. superkoffee]] (2010).]]
+In some cases, especially in tennis's early years, matches could be declared "complete" at an odd number, as well as one under the conventional amount of 6. This usually came about as a mutual agreement between the players involved that the match had reached a natural end, if not exactly a conventional one. Matches such as Crash2991 vs. strong414bad(2008) and [[AshcrementVII vs. UncleChuckTH]](2012) were called complete at 5 rounds, and in another, much rarer instance, RabbitSnore vs. {{NS2}} (2008-2009) was given "honorary completion" after only 3 rounds. Other matches like [[RabbitSnore vs. conradslater]] (2007) and [[Kurkop vs. superkoffee]] (2010) were declared complete at the unusual amount of 9 rounds. These circumstances usually only happen when the last even round of a match is either unable or unwilling to be made by the volleying side, but there is not a desire to consider the match "failed" for sentimental reasons, usually due to the players being close as friends or the quality of the match as it stands being considered too great for failure.
 Additionally, matches can sometimes stall at an odd number with an even finishing round never being made and the match being considered neither completed nor failed due to a loss of communication. These include matches such as [[BMATF vs. Markie]](2007, the second ever tennis match), {{NS2}} vs. Markie(2012), {{dani_phantump}} vs. robochao1(2015-2016) and SushieBoy vs. guysafari(2010), all matches that never received a Round 6.